DAYCO BELTS: EXPERT INSIGHTS ON MAINTENANCE AND MYTHS

In this episode of Wiki Bearings, Hassanein Alwan dives into the world of automotive belts and power transmission with Tan Atila from Dayco, a leading brand with over a century of experience. Discover timing belts, poly V belts, and their critical role in automotive engine performance. Tan provides insights into Dayco's extensive product range, their approach to the evolving automotive market, and how they're adapting to trends like micro-mobility and the rise of electric vehicles. We also explore misconceptions about timing belts, best practices for maintenance, and the impact of shared mobility on the industry. Join us for an informative discussion that covers Dayco's innovations, market presence, and the future of automotive power transmission.

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Transcript

[00:00:00] Welcome to Wiki bearings, where we dive into the worlds of engineering excellence, from the automotive marvels to the industrial giants. Join us to explore the wonders that keeps the world in motion. My name is Hassanein Alwan and I'm your host.

Good morning. Welcome to another episode of Wiki bearings. Today, we are going to talk about automotive belts. And for this topic, we have a very experienced guest. With decades of experience in the automotive belt business and industry. Welcome Tan Atila from Dayco. You are the regional manager for Middle East, Africa, Greece, and Turkey.

Thank you for coming to the show. Thank you, dear Hassanein. It's great to be here. If we look at, at the belt business or the belt automotive belts, it's a very [00:01:00] vast topic. And Dayco is a premium brand in this sector, well known brand. But just for our audience to know a little bit more about Dayco, , what does Dayco do?

Dayco the brand, Dayco the company. I would love to hear from you more. Thank you. Dayco was founded in Dayton, Ohio in 1905. , as a Daytone rubber company, and then the name was transformed into Daco in time. So that's more than a hundred years? Yes. More than a hundred years. Almost. 120 years. Yes. So Daco is, , one of the first manufacturers of, , belts.

And um, currently we are one of the few major, , manufacturers, especially for the timing belt, which is, as you know, a very crucial component. Critical for the, for the engine. Yes. Yes, exactly. Of course, there are many milestones in the history of the company, but, , A hundred years is a long time. [00:02:00] Yes. It's quite a long time.

There are a few, of course, milestones, which are, let's say, very critical. As the company was founded in 1905, Dayco did not have direct presence in Europe until the beginning of 1990s. Okay. In, , 1992, , Deco acquired, , very famous Italian rubber and tire manufacturers, industrial division, , along with its manufacturing facilities in the South of Italy.

So, as of 1992, Dayco became directly present in Europe. And, in, let's say more or less three decades now, Dayco creates almost half of its revenue from the region we call EMEA. Europe, Middle East, Africa, even though we were not present directly, until 1990s in Europe. So impressive growth. Yes. It's actually quite now the EMEA has been, maybe the most significant market for,for Dayco.

Okay. And, , , if [00:03:00] we look at, , the last, , three decades, Dayco have. , grown up to be a well known, and I think they are not only in the aftermarket, but also in OE, in European OE. Now, for our audience that doesn't know very well Dayco as a brand, what products do Dayco cover today? Now, after this, and, and how much of it, of these products are present in the OE?

, Deco is, um, mainly the producer of, , the timing belt and the poly V belt. And of course, the tensioners and the idlers that are used in the application together with the belts. So the whole engine transmission. Exactly, exactly. First of all, the timing drive we call, consists of the timing belt, the timing tensioner, and the idler.

And also the poly V belt and the poly tensioners and idlers. These are the core businesses of Dayco. I mean the poly V, which we normally call the [00:04:00] accessory belt or auxiliary belt. Yes, also is a common usage as well. it transmits the power from the crankshaft to, , the air cramp, , air. conditioning compressor, the steering pump the alternator as well.

, so Deco is a manufacturer and distributor of these, critical components for, for the engine. is, is, is Deco have any presentation or in the OE business as well? Of course, our, um, our revenue is, more or less equally. diverted into OE and aftermarket. So almost half of our turnover comes from, OE and, half of our turnover comes from the aftermarket.

So we are in, , good position. Yes, we are. That's a balanced, balanced, positions. we We are, um, focused on the OE, but we are also, quite strong in the aftermarket. And how is your, uh, market in the [00:05:00] home of the original Dayco, like in U. S., in South America, and so on? We have, four different geographical divisions in the aftermarket.

, North America is one of them, , LATAM, Latin America is one of them, EMEA is one of them and APAC, Asia Pacific, Australia, China is one of them. so EMEA is a very important market for us, like mentioned before, and also our presence in the North American market is, extremely strong as being, still.

Yes, still being an American company. , so we are also working to increase, , our share in the LATAM and APAC regions as well. Now, if we generally look at, DAYCO, it's very much connected to European cars. I don't know how much of your business is also going to the heavy duty, the truck business and so on.

Do you have any idea? Well, if you consider the turnover, [00:06:00] um, an important portion of our business is from passenger cars and light commercial vehicles. But um, OE, in heavy duty. applications. We are the OE supplier for the poly V belt, the auxiliary belt and the tensioner. So our OE pedigree is extremely strong also in heavy duty.

 so, it's difficult to, make a comparison, from turnover point of view between passenger car and heavy duty, but, , we could confidently say we are equally strong both in OE and aftermarket. In both passenger car and heavy duty applications. Now, if we look at your range, you, you're very strong in timing, pulley V and you have some other specialized product.

Can you tell us a little bit, because people read the numbers and they have No real, , understanding of what does this number mean? Just, I mean, we will not, I mean, at the end, it's a podcast. [00:07:00] We cannot do all the technicality of it, but just some idea for people to identify. Maybe they are working with already some of the audiences is doing some DAYCO, but maybe they are also doing some other brands and maybe they want to understand how to identify the numbers and so on.

Of course. , briefly, I would like to, , emphasize our, timing belt range starts with, , nine, four, and it's, , either, , consists of a five digit number or six digit numbers starting with nine, four. Okay. And the, the tensioners that are used with the timing belt are start with the ATB. ATB. Yes. And, um, the, um, also the idlers that are used in the application are the code, the, , Reference numbers start with ATB for the poly belt.

It's actually the rigid components start with ATB for the timing timing belt. Yes. Stands for timing in the end of the ATB stands for the timing belt. Yes. And when it comes to the timing belt, [00:08:00] almost all of them are nine, four. Yes. Start with nine, four, five digits or six digits. Okay. That's great. So for the polyvivalent is, also easy to identify because it goes like 6PK 1300.

A popular, a popular way of, quite popular, to, to, um, it will be easy to understand for the, for the, consumer. And also the tensioners that go with the polyv, start with APV. A PP? Yes. Okay. So in addition to these, of course, we have, the water pumps. Mm-Hmm. that start with dp. dp. To give you an example, DP 1000 is, it means a water pump.

Mm. And, , we have the thermostats also in our range, which start with dt. DT DT 1000 is a thermo state. Okay. And, we have the wheel bearing, which start with, , K-W-D-K-W-D. Yes. And the steering and suspension. parts Start [00:09:00] with DSS like dayco steering, , suspension. Okay. Okay. now of course we, we, we, I mean, people can refer to the catalog.

You have a nice online application. People, if they, if they are using any of the Android or the iOS, they can search Dayco application for, for more information about that. but this is just to give the audience an idea of, to understand. So when they see a 9. 4, they know it's a timing belt. This is PK, this is a pulley V and so on.

Now, especially the timing belts are very popular. I mean, we are selling hundreds of thousands, probably you're selling millions of, of these belts. Where does the success comes from? Why is it so popular for Dayco, the timing belt? The success, in my opinion, comes from our commitment to quality, sustainability, and our approach.

to our customers. The level of service, , that we give to our customers, , is [00:10:00] something very crucial for us. So it's of course, very important to have a high quality product, but it's also important to know how to approach to different markets. It's also important to understand the needs of, , certain markets.

So, , we are of course committed to our, , products quality, but we are also focusing on the level of service we are giving to our, , our customers. So when it comes to, to quality, there is no compromise on the quality, but do you think because maybe you are closer to the market, maybe you understand, , and you are able to give a better service to the market.

I mean, when we started working with Dayco a few years ago, I mean, we are not very long, I think we. We started in maybe 2020. Yes. Something like this. We, we very soon understood the strength of, of Daikon, the timing belt. And this is why it's, it's, it's always an interesting question to ask. And, , definitely let's continue on the timing belt.

If we look at, there is a lots of misconception about timing [00:11:00] belt. Is it same as change? It's not different. When do I need to change the timing belt? Some people say timing belt can, , this is similar to the chain. They can stay forever. There is some misconception about the timing belt. And since I have you here, and especially because of our audience, sometimes we see how things are and how, how the garages or people change.

Someday they change the bearing. They don't change the belt. Sometimes they change the belt. They don't change the bearing. And I would like to take the opportunity that you are here as a manufacturer, as an expert in this to give us more insight into this misconception and how. What is the right way to do, of course, first of all, the proper way to understand when to change any parts, including our parts is, , to consult to the car manufacturer's manual.

Yes. Because, um, even though we speak about the timing belt or the timing chain, every timing belt can have a different frequency. , every. engines, every applications needs, , might differ. [00:12:00] So, , some engines timing belts could be, , could be required to change at 60, 000 kilometers and other belts, , maybe could be changed at 120, 000 kilometers.

In general, , the chain is more durable. , but it's, , the most important thing to do is to check the car manufacturers manual to understand when the belt or the chain must be changed. , from our point of view, of course, when you replace the belt or any bearing in the power transmission or in the auxiliary drive, it is quite crucial to change all the components of the application.

So if you change the timing belt and, but, , do not replace the bearing, , it could have negative effects on the durability on the belt as well. So, as you know, exactly, exactly. So, um, once you are operating on the engine, once you pay for the labor, if you're changing any component, it's safer to replace all the [00:13:00] components to have an ease of mind for the next 60, 90, or 100, 000 kilometers.

And I think it's also cost effective because of course, When you look at the timing, , belt or the timing, , it is, it is a very time consuming, , process to, to change. It's a critical for the engine, any damage to that can damage the whole engine. So when, when we are opening then, and we are changing that, we maybe should make sure that we change all the, the components that would give us another, another, , maybe another hundred thousand kilometers o uh , mine.

But if we don't do this, maybe after 2030 or 40, we have a game to do something on that engine. Exactly. So it is also, I think, cost effective on, on, , on that side. There is some misconception saying that you just look at the belt. If it's, there is no crack or you don't see any signs of wear on the belt, you don't need to change.

Is this true? No, of course [00:14:00] it's, um, it's not the proper way to analyze the belt just by observing with the eye because, um, you know, the belt, , is composed of rubber and cords inside. So any damage might have occurred with time and with the usage. , so the most proper thing to do is either to follow the car manufacturer's manual or, , when any.

components needs to be replaced in the power transmission. It's the safest way to change all the components at once. At least now we have covered this topic. There is a lots of, even when we are selling the bearing, some, sometimes people does not buy the belt and we say, okay, you're changing the bearing or the water pump.

You have to do this. And I think using this platform to educate is also an important part of what we do. Now let's look at We know Daiko is very strong on the European car park. Um, at least for this, the past 20, 30 years, it's covering. majority of the European car parks, but also [00:15:00] from our experience and you developing and working to grow the Middle East and African market, we see there is a significant growth in the emerging market.

Let's call them Middle East, Africa, , Turkey, and so on. Where does this success comes from and, and how do you see, , the growth? In the past few years, our sales team consists of professionals who, , work to understand the different needs of, , different markets. So OE of course is, , a very crucial part of our business, but aftermarket requires somehow a different approach.

We are working with distributors. Like a mineral circles bearings, , we have expertise on the markets that they are working with. We try to approach, , different markets, different countries, if necessary, with different sales policy and different sales approach. We try to observe. , the needs of the end user, , in each country.

And we try to [00:16:00] understand which is the best way to connect them with our product. So this usually requires a different approach for different markets. This is what we are mainly focusing on the areas that we are working. So country by country, we need to apply most of the time, a different strategy. I would say this is the root of our success in the area.

Now, if we look at the car park in this region, it's, it looks a little bit different than the, maybe the European car park or the American car park. Yes. Does Dayco cover this, this car park, which is in this region? I'm talking about Middle East and Africa. Of course. Our products, , actually cover more or less 95 percent of the car park in the, in the region.

So that's, that's a big number. Yes. Our OE presence also is extremely strong with all the car makers and, , truck makers, especially in the, in the area. So day by day, we are focusing on understanding the changing needs, , [00:17:00] of the markets that we are working. And we are trying to adapt our product range in accordance with the needs of the market.

So I would be confident to say our coverage is extremely wide. considering the competition. So, so if we look at the Middle East and Africa, , of course, there is European cars, but I think it's a predominant, , with Japanese and Korean cars application. So we can say confidently that you have the coverage for, for most of these applications.

Exactly, exactly. Now let's look at, at the industry from, from a different, , from a different aspect. Now the market is, is transportation and mobility is, is, we are in the era of the digital world and the era of, , things are, , are changing. And I think there is a rise of what we call the micro mobility, the scoters, the e skateboards, the skate, , boards, and.

The [00:18:00] electrical bikes or bicycles and all of that, the estimation of the market share, , for, for this micro mobility in 2023 was around 30 billion us dollars. And it's expected to reach 90 billion us dollar by 2030. That's huge. It's very big. And, and it is something that I think we can start seeing this even both in Europe and in many cities that the transportation, especially smaller distances.

The young generation are using these e scooters, e mobile, and bicycles. So, , so it becomes, , getting a more popular. And with these numbers, it is three times more from 30 to 90 in, in, Not so many years. So do Dayco look at this as an opportunity market or a market to, to look at? We are trying to, , understand, , how we can work on projects with the manufacturers [00:19:00] of, , let's say different vehicles in regards to micromobility.

, in the recent years, we developed a project with the famous, , German car maker and motorcycle maker and the, the power transmission belts of the electrical motorcycle, , for OE was like dayco. Okay. So, , we are, , whenever there's power transmission, we would like to be present there. So we are.

checking the opportunities, different opportunities, , about how to serve the consumers. Of course, some applications require different, , specifications. So we are trying to, , work to understand what type of applications, , we can work and we are keen on developing different products to satisfy the needs of the manufacturers.

You know, what, what makes this also interesting because it's a lot of. , what we call them the shared mobility, because nowadays you can, , do a mobile app, [00:20:00] take a scooter for 20 minutes, 30 minutes or 40 minutes. And, you know, and it's becomes, so the mileage or the number of kilometers they run is way different than if you are, there is a one owner.

And this is, I think the shared mobility is not only on this micro mobility, but I think it's a concept that is becoming more More popular in different markets where you share the car or, and I think if we look at these cars, the normally the mileage per year is way higher than a single user of this application.

And this is, I think it's going to change maybe. How rapid we have to change this, , spare parts, belt, chain, and all. And then I think things are like the, the transformation of, of, of mobility and transformation. It's it's on its way. We are not yet there, but I think there is a lot. We are maybe, , lucky to, to be part of this transformation that we are observing.[00:21:00] 

And I think we still, still, we have a long way to go. until maybe we reached autonomous cars and all. But with, with that, all of these, the number of services you have to do on a car per year is changing. Rapidly changing. And it's have a demand on these products. Young people, , in some countries, especially tend to have less interest on owning a car.

So car ownership, , is, , in some countries is less popular. I was really surprised to understand my 18 year old nephew was not interested in owning a car and no, had no interest in the cars in general. So young people usually have a more pragmatic approach to cars rather than owning, it could be a sharing or it could be a micro mobility solutions.

So it's really surprising to see, , to, to witness how the industry is changing in that respect. You know, like. maybe we are old enough, , like it have always been a dream to, to [00:22:00] own a car. When we are young at 18, the first thing we want to do is have a driving license. And the first thing I did when I turned up 18 was to apply for a driving license.

Exactly. And I think it was very popular at our time is that we, This is, was a milestone driving license was an important milestone and then owning a car was like the next important, , and what kind of a car and we would, we would dream of a car for, for years before we, we bought, and I think this is also changing, , very with the younger generation, looking at this, it's a bit Yeah, maybe looking at it, it's transportation from A to B.

Um, not any more a luxury or, or a prestige to own a car on, I think. And it is interesting how, how, how this, this, , generation looks at the cars. Now, if we look at it from the, The power transmission business or from, , this is actually a good, [00:23:00] because, um, these, these cars will have more mileage and we will have more business to do.

So this is a, , it's, it's, it's a good sign for the business. , but this is also shows that the mindset is, is, is shifting from owning a car to maybe sharing a car or using this immobility. Recently, I think I read that, um, Dayco have opened a full scale belt manufacturing in Mexico. Yes. And, , while I was reading the news and I was like, what came to my mind?

Like, why Mexico? And like, what does it mean for me as a distributor that you, you are now producing in Mexico? Give us some insight about what's going on on the other side of the world. Of course, as you know, in the last decade, , Dayco grew very aggressively, especially in the aftermarket. So, , we have manufacturing facilities, , in different locations all over the globe.

, we believe that Mexico is, , [00:24:00] the proper location to, first of all, enhance, , our presence in North America and LATAM. And then of course, to support some part of the EMEA business. I think they will continue investing in, , new manufacturing facilities in the following years, , to come. We are trying to optimize, , our manufacturing, , our, , strength in, , logistics and stock optimization.

So I think our manufacturing facility in Mexico will help us improve the level of service, , we are giving in, in specifically the timing belt. You know, you know why, why it was surprising for me. , because recently I heard that one of the big manufacturer or premium manufacturer belt is closing some of their manufacturing facilities, for example, in some other parts of the world.

Yes. And, , or then Dayco is opening a new facility. So. , this is why it's a bit, you know, surprising. This means you would be able to maybe better delivery [00:25:00] time, maybe more range of products. Exactly. Will it only, , service the North American market or we will see some products coming to the region? No, of course not necessarily only to, , only to serve the North u , Latin American markets, but, , we believe it will be also, , helpful for us to improve the level of availability that we grant to, , our, , distributors in EMEA region.

We also have, , different manufacturing facilities in, different countries from logistics point of view. , we believe that it's important to have, let's say regional, , manufacturing facility to, , to optimize the service that we provide to our, , distributors all around the globe. I know that we get already now some products from Argentina.

So you already have, , and we got products from different parts of the world. So, so maybe in the future we see some made in Mexico. [00:26:00] Likely. Like, why not? Another, another topic is what I call the, the motor sport or the hobby sport. Now, this is a growing market as well. The general motor sport is today $140 billion market.

It's estimated to grow up to 200 billion in in 2030. But I know as well, Daiko have some niche in that hobby sport market. And, and I want you to tell us more about this. Of course, , Daiko loves competition. It's, , it's, , in our, , in our, DNA. DNA. Exactly. Exactly. So we also have sponsorships all around the world in different categories.

It would be important to emphasize our presence in snowmobiles, all terrain vehicles, electrical motorcycles, like we mentioned before. So as I mentioned, wherever there's a power transmission, [00:27:00] we want to be there. We would like to be there. So we are As it is in our DNA, , we try to, , support different, different types of, let's say a competition, , all around the world.

So, , we are present, , as Deco in, , in different organizations, both with our products and as a, as a sponsor, you know, you know, like, , why I think this is interesting. And I want you to give us a bit more on, on, on this now in this I know like snow mobile is maybe famous in some part of the, maybe in Canada, north of Europe.

But, , we don't have a lot of snow and I know, but, but on the other side, we have a lot of sand and, and, and we, we see. a lot of Daikos products in the 4x4s, these buggies. , and I think a lot of our audience from the region, , it's a part of what we do in this part of the world. We, we like this, what you call it, , , all terrain, , [00:28:00] vehicles, right?

Yes. All terrain vehicles. Yes. ATVs. So we like to take these buggies 4x4s in the desert and, and I know you have a special, um, range dedicated for this. And some of our audience maybe recognize that, but for the others that does not recognize, I want to know more. , of course you mentioned that we have a niche products in that, in that segment.

, we are covering a wide range of, , all terrain vehicles. , Belts, , for, for, for power transmission, , we are offering, , more than 500 items. So it covers the majority of the ATVs, the popular ATVs that are used, , in the, in the Middle East. So, , when the, when the end user needs to replace the belt, I'm sure he will know Deco immediately.

So he will have the, , he will have the product. He will have the availability with the, , with the, let's say, acceptable price. So, , we are quite content with the growing business also in that, in that segment. I know that, , some of the [00:29:00] popular part, they start with XTX and HPX and, , HP and CVT. And I think, , these are interesting.

interesting product for that niche, all terrain, , vehicles. Yes. I mean, for us, it's an interesting because in this part of the world is the going to the desert is part of, of the, , let's go, , the, the, the region, , speciality. We take our time in the weekends. Maybe we drive in the desert and we have, , maybe a coffee or tea somewhere there.

And it's, it's, it's, it's a hobby. Um, that is, is by most of, of, of the area, if it's UAE, Saudi or Oman, , and it's, it is, it is a common and, and, , your brand is presented in a lot of these, these products. Let's look at a question that a lot of our audiences is always wondering when, whenever we, we interview, we have a guest from the [00:30:00] engine side of the business.

We cannot deny the growth of hybrid cars, electrical cars in the, in the market. And where is Dayco in this segment? How is, is, , Dayco taking this challenge? Our product range, some part of our product range, , is only present in the, in the internal combustion engine. What we believe as a company is that we are quite successful in observing and understanding and developing, , the needs of the changing, , market conditions.

, an important part of our product range, , is also present in the electrical vehicles. And of course, in the future, how the aftermarket of these electrical vehicles will evolve is still yet to be answered, but we believe we are confident, , with, , adapting. to, , the, the changing needs of the market.

So, , we will always be an important supplier for the aftermarket also for the [00:31:00] hybrid cars, especially and electrical vehicles. So we are, we are not afraid of the, of the changes of the aftermarket. We are confidently, , trying to observe and react accordingly. You know, um, when it comes to aftermarket still, even the growth of the sales of electrical vehicle, but the car park is still 99 percent globally dominated by the ice engine.

So in aftermarket as a distributor, like me, I think that we, we still have 10, 20 years to, to look at this. It's it's of course, it's a. a market that is significantly, , it's growing. But on the other hand, we have observed something that is happening in this region where the growth of hybrid, , vehicles and these hybrid vehicles for us, we, we love that because it's, it's, it's gives you.

You will still supply all the ice engine components plus the other components. So, so it's actually not, it's an opportunity. I look at it from, [00:32:00] from me as a distributor, , working with you and with some famous manufacturer. I think hybrid is, it's a big opportunity. A lots of, , the change of, you know, in this region is happening through a hybrid.

People are moving from ice to hybrid, which gives the advantage of maybe cost cutting efficiency, but also does not require the infrastructure of electricity and so on. And we are seeing that growing not only in the Middle East, but also in Africa, because the infrastructure, the electricity infrastructure is not so strong.

And we see this habit and for the hybrid business, I think we are We are well covered there. , Hassanein, in, I think the key to success, both for the supplier, the manufacturer and for the distributor is to observe and react accordingly to the changes in the aftermarket. , so even if the market is to convert from ice engine to hybrid engine or to electrical engine, , any company manufacturer, supplier, or distributor that is able to [00:33:00] react to the changing needs of the market.

I think they will be successful. True. There's still lots of parts to produce and sell, in my opinion. So let's, I know that, that always, , Dayco is working on, on new project and what are the latest product? Is there any new product in the pipeline? You mentioned a little bit about, , the wheel bearing kit.

I think it's quite a fairly new product in the, so tell us if there is anything that we should expect, , or anything in the pipeline. Of course. Um, Hassanein in my 11 years with the company, I have seen. First, the change, , in the markets, , we are working, especially in Turkey and Middle East from the sales of the single belt to the timing belt kit, and then the timing belt kits with water pump.

And now the market is slowly changing to. timing belt kit with water pump and the thermo state. So, um, recently we have increased, , thermo [00:34:00] states, , wheel bearings and, , steering and suspension parts to, to have a more complete range. This all happened in the last five years, more or less. , the next five years, 10 years, we are trying to understand, , how we can serve our customers better and to, to choose the product lines to, to start will be key to enhance our growth for the moment.

The majority of our sales is, um, from the timing belt kits, , with water pumps and, , the thermostats and the wheel bearings. and the steering and suspension is, , for the moment completing our range. So, , in the near future, we will see how, , we will, we will increase, , which product lines we will use to serve our customers better.

Sure. Tan, it was really lovely to have you on, on our show. I mean, we enjoyed your presence. , We had, , The time to look at some Dayco products and the timing [00:35:00] belts and auxiliary belts. Any last words? Hassanein, it was a blast since day one to work with you and your company. Always enjoy your presence and always happy to exchange ideas.

and your vision is also very valuable for us. So I thank you very much for this kind invitation and hope to work with you in many more years to come together. We'll do, we'll do. For our audience, thank you very much for this episode. It was lovely to have you Tan. on this show until next time, keep spinning towards success.

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